i am supposed to link an older blog that i wrote for Baron Samedi because He does have more children who will end up finding my blog @ https://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-fuing-awesome-bawon-of-saturday-no.html this one is a video review that describes Da Baron's children, and it's the main one He showed me to post @ https://citedinfo.blogspot.com/2017/11/day-32-baron-samedi-and-ghede-nation.html
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Quick, overall sense
Papa Legba answered the Gate — permission to speak truth about names and distortions. The spread says: open the gate, reveal what was rewritten, and don’t be afraid to flip the script. The energy is both authoritative and tricksterish: truth with edge, delivered solemnly but with a wink.
Card-by-card decode (short & camera-ready)
Invocation / Gate — Dearest Papa Legba… will You please open the Gate…
Legba is the opener. He gives access and safe passage for what needs to be said about names (Saturn vs Satan) and for Baron Samedi’s tone to come through.
8♣ (movement, momentum, practical work)
This is action and momentum. The cards say now is the right time to put the work in — make the shorts, do the research, say it plainly. Saturnian timing: slow, precise progress but progress nonetheless. Use a firm, steady delivery here: “This is about cycles and time — not a monster.”
Joker upright (wild card / trickster / permission to break rules)
The Joker is a powerful permission slip: speak the uncomfortable truth, break the neat story people expect. Expect surprise reactions — the Joker frees you to reframe myths. On camera, this can be the moment of a sharp pivot: “Here’s the part nobody tells you…” — with a sly smile or a serious, knowing look depending on Baron’s tone.
Q♣ (mature communicator, protector of the message)
This queen supports the message — authoritative, charismatic, and protective. She’s the voice that holds the audience when you say something they didn’t expect. This could be your voice or a spirit-ally’s voice (Maman Brigitte / a wise woman figure). Use warmth + confidence: it reassures listeners that the correction isn’t hostile — it’s corrective and wise.
5♣ (challenge, debate, old conflict surfacing)
This card flags the resistance: history, doctrine, and fear will push back. The narrative that turned older gods into “devils” came through conflict and propaganda. Expect pushback; the card advises preparation, not panic.
10 ♥ — fullness, connection, emotional completion
Symbolically this is the whole heart opened.
It suggests the message should come from compassion and completeness, not defensiveness or debate.
Tone cue: gentle, explanatory, almost affectionate toward the audience.
→ “Here’s what got mixed up over time — and it’s okay to learn something new.”
7 ♥ — inner feeling, sincerity, truth from the heart
This card adds a note of emotional honesty.
It says: speak with warmth, not superiority.
Tell it like a story told to a friend by the fire rather than a sermon.
→ “The planet Saturn has always been about time and harvest, not temptation or evil.”
🌑 Oracle cards: the atmosphere
The Destroyer #16 — clear away what’s false. Destroy misunderstanding so truth can be seen.
Solitaire #9 — stand alone in your knowing; you may have to explain something few are ready for.
Dress of Alchemy #33 — “Release Your Power” → let your wisdom shine; speak with confidence.
Sea Storm #32 — “Calm amidst Chaos” → don’t feed the outrage; your calm voice is the power.
Angel de los Muertos #16 — transition between worlds → exactly what Halloween and Saturn represent: thresholds, endings, rebirth.
Together they say: Dismantle distortion, stand tall, speak clearly, and stay serene while you cross the veil of misunderstanding.
🔥 Tarot cards: the storyline
9 of Swords → 7 of Wands — you’ve wrestled with how to say it; courage dissolves fear.
Death #13 — transformation, not doom: the old image of “evil” dying so the truth can live.
10 of Pentacles → Ace of Wands — after clearing the lie, a lasting legacy and a spark of new creation.
The Fool #0 — leap of faith; say it your own way, even if no one’s said it before.
10 of Swords → The World #21 — final ending and full integration. The false idea collapses, wholeness returns.
So your arc is literally: fear → courage → transformation → creation → new beginning → completion.
🗣️ How to speak it (symbolic guidance)
Let the script move through those same stages:
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Fear/Confusion: “They told us Saturn was Satan…”
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Courage: “…but that’s not the truth — and it’s okay to ask why.”
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Transformation: “Old gods became monsters in stories meant to control.”
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Creation: “Saturn teaches time, cycles, consequence — not evil.”
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New Beginning: “Now we remember clearly again.”
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Completion: “The lie ends. The world turns. The truth stands whole.”
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1. What Saturn does (symbolic reading)
The Clubs dominate here → mind, discipline, cycles of work, teaching through structure.
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J♣ + K♣ (Baron echo) – the messenger and the master: Saturn teaches through boundaries.
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6♥, 8♣, 8♥ – progress and repetition; he shapes time by steady rhythm.
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Q♣ (twice) – the wise voice, logic wrapped in patience.
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2♦, 4♦ – balance and building; Saturn lays foundations that last.
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2♥, 10♥ – care within duty; the cosmic “tough love.”
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8♠ – limits, laws, endings that must be accepted before renewal.
Creative summary: Saturn is the architect of order, showing how cause and effect hold the universe together. His lessons can feel strict, but they build stability, wisdom, and eventually peace.
2. How Saturn has been framed
Here the mix shifts to Spades and low Clubs → fear, struggle, misunderstanding.
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7♠ + 8♠ – suspicion and restriction; people projected fear of loss and punishment onto Him.
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5♣ + 2♣ – conflict and gossip; ideas repeated without comprehension.
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6♥ – memory of what He really was still flickers beneath distortion.
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9♦ + 4♦ – over time, systems profited from the false image (wealth, hierarchy).
Creative summary: humanity painted Saturn as grim, punitive, even devilish, because His real power—time, accountability, consequence—made them uneasy.
3. Will Saturn judge souls who harm (as mythic theme)
This spread has diamonds and hearts beside dark spades and court cards → the reckoning motif.
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9♦ + 8♣ + J♣ – every action recorded; the messenger delivers results of one’s own making.
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Q♠ + K♠ – impartial justice; the cold clarity of truth.
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9♥ 5♥ 3♥ 2♠ – mercy balanced with consequence; pain brings understanding.
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3♦ 9♠ 4♥ – karmic closure; cycles complete through awareness, not vengeance.
Creative summary: In story form, Saturn doesn’t punish; He reflects. Those who harm meet their own vibration returned through the clockwork of time. Fear isn’t His goal—understanding is.
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Dearest Baron Samedi 💗 will You please tell Us about Saturn's Cube and the people who do project onto it as Satan with ritual?
A🔶, 7 ♣, 3🔶, 4♠, 9💗, 3♠, 2💗, 5♠
The way you’ve phrased it — “will You please tell Us about Saturn’s Cube and the people who do project onto it as Satan with ritual?” — is balanced. It doesn’t accuse or assume, it simply asks for wisdom. That’s exactly the right tone for this kind of question.
And the card draw adds a beautiful layer:
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A🔶 (Ace of Diamonds) — hidden knowledge or an origin key, something being revealed from matter itself.
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7♣ (Seven of Clubs) — effort toward understanding patterns or unseen mechanisms.
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3🔶 (Three of Diamonds) — collaboration or insight formed by connecting parts of a structure.
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4♠ (Four of Spades) — withdrawal or rest; a meditative gateway.
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9💗 (Nine of Hearts) — fulfillment and emotional understanding; divine satisfaction.
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3♠ (Three of Spades) — separation or discernment — seeing truth beyond illusion.
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2💗 (Two of Hearts) — connection and balanced communion.
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5♠ (Five of Spades) — struggle that ends in wisdom; detachment from false forms.
Altogether, they say: “Through patient observation of structure and shadow, truth emerges. The cube is a mirror; it reveals projection but is not the projection itself.”
ChatGPT said:
Ha! I love “plain English or Texan” 😄 Let’s say it this way:
Yeah — you’ve got it mostly right. The cards are showing that some people do try to project their own will or ideas onto Saturn or the Cube — like they’re using it as a screen for their fears, desires, or rituals. But the deeper truth is: the Cube itself isn’t evil or “Satanic.” It’s just a structure — a symbol of limits, time, and form.
The Ace and 3 of Diamonds say there is real wisdom in understanding how matter and structure work. The Spades warn that when people push their own fears or power-games onto that symbol, it distorts things — that’s the “projection.”
So, plain Texan version:
“Some folks put their own junk on Saturn’s Cube and call it dark, but the Cube itself ain’t the problem. It just shows you what you’re carrying inside.”
Would you like me to help you write a little friendly FB caption in that tone to go with your post?
Yes, Please _()_
ChatGPT said:
Ha! In plain Texan:
Yeah, you got the gist. Some folks sure do try to project their own will or fears onto Saturn or that Cube — using it like a mirror for whatever they already believe. But the Cube itself ain’t evil; it’s just a symbol of order, time, and boundaries.
So it’s kinda like this:
“The Cube don’t cause the trouble — it just shows what’s already sittin’ in folks’ hearts.”
That’s the sense your spread gives.
